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JAMES MADDERS

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TRACEY

TRACEY Report 17 Aug 2010 06:45

good morning, i'm trying to find out when james madders died. he was born in Hinstock Shrops c1781. He is still alive in 1871 according to the census. He was married to lydia allen who died in 1873 in west bromwich, staffs which is where he was living. I can see a reference for his son James death in the first quarter of 1875. I can also see a reference for 1855 but if the census is correct this can't be my man! Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Tracey

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2010 06:52

Just for reference:
1871 England Census
James Madders Age: 87 Estimated birth year: abt 1784 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Lydia Gender: Male Where born: Not known Civil parish: Handsworth Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 65
James Madders 87
Lydia Madders 37 (Yes, 37)
Sarah Hill 24
Charles Hill 2
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2968; Folio: 10; Page: 13; GSU roll: 836431.

Deaths Mar 1873
Madders Lydia 89 W. Bromwich 6b 516

Deaths Mar 1875
MADDERS James 41 W. Bromwich 6b 582

TRACEY

TRACEY Report 17 Aug 2010 06:58

oops sorry, forgot to mention that I believe that the lydia mentioned in the 1871 was wrongly recorded as his spouse. His wife lydia was born c 1784 and his daughter lydia was born c1832 so I think this lydia was his daughter.

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2010 07:00

Just for further reference, as the very young Lydia had me worried:
1851 England Census
James Madders Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1781 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Lydia Gender: Male Where born: Instock, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Handsworth County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Household schedule number: 14
James Madders 70
Lydia Madders 63
William Madders 30 son
James Madders 16 son
Sarah Hill 4 grndau
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2024; Folio: 6; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87430.

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2010 07:05

So, have you found his wife elsewhere in 1871?
Thanks

TRACEY

TRACEY Report 17 Aug 2010 07:11

no unfortunately not only other record I thought may refer to her was the death in1873

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2010 18:18

So, we are missing a death for James, born 1781, and a marriage or death for Lydia born 1832? And the where-abouts of his wife in 1871 census?
I am having no luck.