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Hi all,

Trying to find any details on the family of Peter Dinner c1826, father Thomas miner, mother Alice, residence Boyton. I have checked the online cornwall opc, unable to find a marriage of Thomas & Alice.

Peter immigrated to Australia onboard the Wellesley, arriving in Australia September 1860.

I have all his details in Australia.

Thanks

Parish Records Collection - marriage
Groom's forenames: Thomas


Groom's forenames signed:

Groom's forenames BT:

Groom's surname: DINNER


Groom's surname signed:

Groom's surname BT:

Date: 12 Jul 1813

Bride's forenames: Alice


Bride's forenames signed:

Bride's forenames BT:

Bride's surname: DAYMAN

Bride's surname alias:

Bride's surname signed:

Bride's surname BT:

Parish: Launcells

County: Cornwall

family search has Alice as Hayman not Dayman!
Christina

Thanks, On his death record in Australia it is listed as Haman, so probably Hayman

Just noticed the Alice remarried James Honey Truro, 26 June 1838, can you tell me who is with them on the 1841 and 1851 Census.

I found found a death of Thomas 1826 aged 45 years, not sure if the right Thomas.

Thanks

This was the only Alice & James of 'proper' age that I could find ???????

1841 England Census about Alice Honey
Name: Alice Honey
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Northam
Hundred: Shebbear
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: ?? Crop St.
Registration district: Bideford
Sub-registration district: Northam
Household Members: Name Age
James Honey 65 .. Ag lab .. born in county
Alice Honey 55 .. not born in county

And this death..... Northam is just out of Bideford, so possibly the same registration district

Deaths Sep 1844 (>99%)
HONEY Alice Bideford 10 43

Could Peter have been married before he left England ??

The only Peter Dinner that I can find on the 1851 census is married to a "Charlotte".

Charlotte is not with her spouse on any other census but is listed as married on the 1861 & 1871 census and a widow on the 1881 census.

However I can not find a marriage between a peter Dinner and a Charlotte, nor a marriage for a Charlotte to any 'Dinner' male ???

from www.beta.familysearch.org


England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Peter Dinner

residence: Boyton, Cornwall, England
parents: Thomas Dinner, Alice

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Peter Dinner
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Aug 1826
baptism/christening place: Boyton, Cornwall, England
father's name: Thomas Dinner
mother's name: Alice
indexing project (batch) number: I02346-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545323




sylvia

Peter in 1841 ..... it IS Dinner on the image. I have sent in a name change

1841 Census

Name: Peter Dennin
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Moorwinstow
Hundred: Stratton
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Stratton
Sub-registration district: Kilkhampton

John Brimacombe 45 Farmer
Elizabeth Brimacombe 43
William Brimacombe 20
Charles Brimacombe 18
Elizabeth Brimacombe 16
Joanna Brimacombe 14
Grace Brimacombe 11
Mary Brimacombe 5
James Barry 25
Peter Dennin 15 Male Servant
Thomas Brook 15
Faney Passa 16



sylvia

I think this is the same Peter and Charlotte Dinner that Julcoe found on the 1851 Census .......... at the baptism of a child

Peter Dinner

spouse: Charlotte

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Eadith Dinner
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Feb 1856
baptism/christening place: SAINT ERME,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
birth date: 22 Oct 1855
father's name: Peter Dinner
mother's name: Charlotte
indexing project (batch) number: P02028-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 246773



1851 Census

Name: Peter Dinner
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Dinner
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Moorwinstow, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: St Erme
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: St Clement

Peter Dinner 24 Lead Miner
Charlotte Dinner 25 b.ca 1825, St Erme, Cornwall


sylvia

1861 Census

Name: Charlotte Dinner
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Ladock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus

Richard F Wise 46 Rector of Ladock
Mary A H Wise 45
Richard Wise 77
Mary A Wise 82
Jane Newt 39
Harriet A Kemp 22
Charlotte Dinner 36 Married, House Maid

Address:- Rectory, Ladock


1871 Census

Name: Charlotte Dinner
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Tudy
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Bodmin
Sub-registration district: St Mabyn

Elizabeth Ann Magor 66 Landowner
J Emily Magor 32
Ellen Grills 28
Charlotte Dinner 45 Married, Nurse
Maria Menncer 32
Anny G Williams 21
Kate Curtis 18
Thomas Lalinon 52

Address:- Lemellin


??????

1881 Census

Name: Scharlot Dinner
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Merther
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Namprathic
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: Nurse

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus

Richard Truscott 38 Ag Lab
Ellen Truscott 33
William Truscott 4
Samuel H. Truscott 2
Jabes Truscott
Scharlot Dinner 54



1891 Census

Name: Charlotte Dinner
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: Merther, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Newlyn
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: St Columb
Sub-registration district: Newlyn

Richard Truscott 48 Ag Lab
Ellen Truscott 44 b. St Erme
William S Truscott 14
Samuel J H Truscott 12
Jabez Truscott 10
George Truscott 8
Wallace Truscott 5
Charlotte Dinner 65 Married, Living on her own means



???

Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)

Dinner Charlotte 75 St. Columb 5c 63


?????

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)

SEARLE Ellen Truro 5c 255
SEARLE Ellen Truro 5c 255
Truscott Richard Truro 5c 255


sylvia

This looks like that child on the baptism record

Births Dec 1855 (>99%)

Dinner Edith Redruth 5c 249


Deaths Jun 1856 (>99%)

Dinner Edith Truro 5c 1_8




sylvia

just to confirm Hayman .... Thomas and Alice marriage from beta.familysearch.org


Thomas Dinner

spouse: Alice Hayman
marriage: 12 Jul 1813 — Launcells, Cornwall, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas Dinner
bride's name: Alice Hayman
marriage date: 12 Jul 1813
marriage place: Launcells,Cornwall,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05338-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916948




sylvia

James Honey and Alice marriage from beta.familysearch.org

James Honey

England Marriages, 1538–1973
parents: James Honey
spouse: Alice Dinner
marriage: 25 Jun 1838 — Truro, Cornwall, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: James Honey
bride's name: Alice Dinner
marriage date: 25 Jun 1838
marriage place: Truro, Cornwall, England
groom's father's name: James Honey
bride's father's name: Richard Gayman
indexing project (batch) number: I02408-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596279




sylvia

I have still not found a marriage for Peter and Charlotte!


but it does look suspiciously as though it is your Peter who married Charlotte, and then left her behind when going to Australia


EDIT:- although there is this death of a peter Dinner

Deaths Sep 1856 (>99%)

DINNER Peter Launceston 5c 16


Launceston is the registration district that includes Boyton



sylvia

Thanks to everyone who has replied during the last 12 hours, sorry I haven't been back to thread been out all day.

Peter married in 1864 and died in 1895 (both Aust). If it is indeed is marriage to Charlotte, he is still alive in 1881!!

Sylvia and Julcoe,

Just read all thread replies, looks like Charlotte got a bit confused when filling out the 1881 and 1891 Census - 1881 she is a widower, 1891 she is married.

I think I will get his marriage certificate to see if it says anything about another marriage & family.

Obviously this happened quite a lot, his wife's 1st husband, brother & father immigrated, whilst his mother & sisters remained in England!!

Mel

I posted that death of a Peter Dinner in Launceston in 1856 as a warning that it looks as though there were TWO Peter Dinners living in the same area at approximately the same time

.................. and so which one was Charlotte married to?



sylvia

Sylvia,

I haven't been able to find a marriage, but, if there was a marriage I would probably go with my Peter, only because on the Census Charlotte has listed herself as being married.