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1841 census look-up please

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Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 13:49

I'm looking for a Jonathan William Pargiter born circa 1819 in Bristol (a boot maker) and his wife Mary Ann Bird born circa 1823 in Bristol. They would have have been living somewhere in the Bristol or Gloucester areas. Many thanks for any help.

Jackie

Gee

Gee Report 27 Nov 2009 13:54

Is this his birth, its not Bristol?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Jonathan William Pargiter
Name: Jonathan William Pargiter
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Apr 1819
Father's Name: John Pargiter
Mother's Name: Dinah Pargiter
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
County: London

Was he born in London and married in Bristol?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Jonathan William Pargiter
Name: Jonathan William Pargiter
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 211 (click to see others on page)



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Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 14:06

Hi Ginny

Ooooh - now you've stumped me. I believe when I was researching him I came up with two Jonathan William Pargiters - one in London and one in Bristol. I was sure he had been born in Bristol and thought I had some doc with his birthplace on. I was trying to find out if he and his first wife had any children. Mary Bird died in 1842. My great grandfather, the son of Jonathan's second marriage, was born in St Phillips, Gloucester that's a definite.

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 27 Nov 2009 14:07

jonanathan married a jane morgan in 1846 in bristol

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 27 Nov 2009 14:10

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906


Birth, Marriage & Death



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PreviewName: Jonathan William Pargiter
County: London

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Name: Jonathan William Pargiter
Mother: Dinah Pargiter
Father: John Pargiter
Birth: date - city, London

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915


Birth, Marriage & Death



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Name: Jonathan William Pargiter
Birth: abt 1819
Death: Mar 1876 - Hampstead, Greater London, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915


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Name: Jonathan William Pargiter
Birth: abt 1820
Death: Mar 1876 - Hampstead, Greater London, London, Middlesex

Gee

Gee Report 27 Nov 2009 14:14

Jackie

I cant see a Bristol birth but there 2 for London. I can see his second marriage too in Gloustershire, but what I cant find and what you really want is the bloomin 1841 census

I cant find him on ANY census....come on you eagle eyes out there

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Nov 2009 14:16

1861 just posting this one

Name: Jonathan Payeter
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizebeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 332
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Payeter 42
Elizebeth Payeter 27 Southampton
John Payeter 13 Bristol
Clara Ann Payeter 6 Mo



Image is PARJETER

Occupation of shoe maker

Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 14:17

Thanks very much for the BMD info. Yes, Jane Morgan was his second wife and their son Archibald John was my great grandfather. They obviously moved down to Hampstead eventually as that was the area where Archibald married and had children.

Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 14:21

Thanks Glitter Baby - but that can't be him. I know surnames get distorted over time, but I can't imagine that he got married for a third time!! Something to think about though .................

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Nov 2009 14:25

1881 just for info

Name: Archibald Pargiter
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie L.
Gender: Male
Where born: St Phillips, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Princess Ter
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: House Painter

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Pargiter 30
Annie L. Pargiter 23
Edith E. Pargiter 3
Ellen K. Pargiter 1



Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Pargiter Archibald John Hampstead 1a 1231
Pargiter Archibold John Hampstead 1a 1231
SANDERS Annie Louisa Hampstead 1a 1231

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 27 Nov 2009 14:26

Name: John Paryik poss 1841 census scotland
[John Pargiter]
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Civil parish: Fetteresso
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Market Square
Occupation: Tailor
Parish Number: 258
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Paryiter 60
Sarah Paryiter 60
Charlotte Paryiter 25
John Paryike 25
Georgina Paryike


Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 14:31

Hi Glitter Baby

Thanks for the latest. I have all of those census details, but thanks very much for following up. I have been looking at my tree and I have a horrible feeling you could be right and Jonathan DID marry a third time. My great grandfather's middle name was John and on several census doesn't call himself Archibald. The Jonathan/Elizabeth marriage has a child John in the 1861 census aged 13, and my great grandfather was born around 1849. I'm sure the daughter died young, but you've really thrown me now!!!
Back to the drawing board......

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 27 Nov 2009 14:32

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Name: John Wm Pargiter
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Baldock
, Hertfordshire
, England
Civil parish: North Cray
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage
Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chiselhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Western Wood 57
Sarah Letita Wood 52
Harriet Charlotte Wood 22
Charlotte Morris 29
Chas Trigana Franklin 38
Ludy Franklin 32
Nevile Lubbock 22
Ann Askey 48
Sarah Higgens 28
Emily Budd 32
Mercy Gee 24
Ann Elliott 23
Elizabeth Laurence 18
John Wm Pargiter 42 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Lionel John Coney 24

Gee

Gee Report 27 Nov 2009 14:33

These are the Gloustershire births between the marriage and the death of mary

Births Dec 1839 (>99%)
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PARGITER Clarissa Clifton 11 266

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Births Jun 1840 (>99%)
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Pargiter George Shipston on Stour 11 375



Cant find these on the census either? Maybe they didnt appear if they were out?

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Jackie

Jackie Report 27 Nov 2009 14:53

I have seen that entry for a John Wm Pargiter as a servant before and wondered whether he was "mine". Clarissa died at about 2 years old, that I am certain of. You'd think with a name like Pargiter that searching would be easy, wouldn't you!!

Gee

Gee Report 27 Nov 2009 14:57

So was Clarrisa jonathan's daughter? I thought you didnt know the children, or am I getting confused!

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Nov 2009 14:57

1871 could match the one born Baldock

Name: John Wm Pargelu
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Baldock, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 410
Household Members: Name Age
John Wm Pargelu 59

Could be Pargeter on image but occupation of gentlemans steward

Gee

Gee Report 27 Nov 2009 15:35

1841 England Census
about John Pargetter
Name: John Pargetter
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Cavendish Square
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ecoffey 35
Sarah Nattey 45
Lucy Baker 30
Ann Rabson 30
Ann Higgins 30
Jane Wingler 30
Susan Clark 20
William Large 40
John Pargetter 25


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 676; Book: 2; Civil Parish: St Marylebone; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 28; Page: 9; Line: 18; GSU roll: 438792.

Jackie

Jackie Report 30 Nov 2009 08:21

I knew about Clarissa but I don't know how, stupid as that sounds, although I didn't know she could have been his third wife's child. I was trying to find out if Jonathan and his first wife Mary had any children, sorry to have confused you.