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I would be very greatful if someone could help me find the following family in 1851 or 1861 census:

Father: John DANIELL c1809 Upton Scudamore, Wiltshire
Mother: Emma DANIELL c1807 Wiltshire
Son: John DANIELL c1846 Warminster, Wiltshire

Here are John and Emma in 1841:

1841 England Census
about Emma Daniell
Name: Emma Daniell
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Gender: Female
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Upton Scudamore
Hundred: Warminster
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Warminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Daniell 35
Emma Daniell 33

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1187; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Upton Scudamore; County: Wiltshire; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 8; Page: 9; Line: 2; GSU roll: 464202.

Many thanks,
Rebecca

Can't see them in the 1851

Possible??????
Name: John Daniell
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Warminster
Town: Warminster
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: Pound Street

Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Warminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 3m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Daniell 45 Corn Dealer
Eliza Daniell 41
Margaret Daniell 12
John Daniell 8

All shown as born Warminster
HO107; Piece: 1843; Folio: 262; Page: 1

1861 for the John Quinsgran posted, so suspect not the same as yours.
Name: John Daniell
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Warminster
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Warminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Daniell 44
Elizabeth Daniell 44
Alice A Daniell 16
Thomas J Daniell 14
John Daniell 13

There is a John Daniels born 1843 living Warminster. I cant access the full census

Dear Keith,

Nope, unfortunately that's not them. Mine are a "poor" family.

Your 1861 is unfortunately also incorrect.

Many thanks for your help.

Regards,
Rebecca

Quinsgran, what year have you found, will take a look.

Rebbeca, I noticed John was an Ag Lab in 1841, maybe stepped up?

Unfortunately he didn't "step up". I happened upon the owner of a tree for the corn dealer with the complete line and it's definitely not mine.

The search continues......

Many thanks,
Rebecca

Sorry Keith I should have said 1851 census

Keith,

I think Quinsgran's find is the same as your corn dealer find - the son here is also born 1843.

Regards,
Rebecca

Quinsgran, the only one I can see is the incorrect one I posted.

Rebbeca, sorry have to leave this now, time for bed here (nearly midnight) and have to work in the morning.

1851.
John Daniell age 5 living Warminster.

Im using the official 1901 census where you can also check the other census. I have found on this site names that have been missing on Ancestry

www.1901censusonline.com

Quinsgran where have you found this please? Which Site? The only one I can see on Ancestry is age 8. FMP does not cover wiltshiire yet in 1851.

Edit crossed postings, maybe thats why I cannot find him, will check name variations.

Second edit, cannot see any John b 1846 with parents John and Emma in Warminster unfortunately.

Dear HappySouthener,

Many thanks - I will investigate your birth find.

Best wishes,
Rebecca

on www.1901censusonline

1851 census
John Daniells age 45
John Daniels age 45

both in Warminster

I think I might just purchase some credits to the official 1901census site as that 1851 5yr old John Daniell might be mine..... I don't see his parents, but maybe he was staying with family.... Shame that the credts are only valid for 7 days!!

Regards,
Rebecca

Hi Rebecca.
Hope you got my added info

Hi Quinsgran,

Thank you!!! I've got them!!!! It was 3rd time lucky on the official 1901census site!!

The first 2 were linked to the corn dealer and a gardener - both are incorrect as I hold a copy of both John juniors birth certs who were born in 1846 (same yr as mine), however I've seen full trees with these 2 kids and they're not mine.

Full transcription for John Daniell - 1851
Name John Daniell
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household SON
Occupation SCHOLAR
Birth Place Warminster
Birth County WILTSHIRE
Address Bread Street
District Warminster, Warminster
Administrative County Wiltshire

Full transcription for John Daniels
Name John Daniels
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1806
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation CORN DEALER
Birth Place Warminster
Birth County WILTSHIRE
Address Pound Street
District Warminster, Warminster
Administrative County Wiltshire

The one that is correct shows John Daniells and Emma Daniells with children Charles Daniells aged 10 and Eliza Daniells aged 6 - no John jr. Wonder where he was........ I only viewed the original census for this which is in PDF format. The ref reads HO107/1843. I'll see if I can now find it on Ancestry using this ref.

Once again many thanks and also to Keith (sweet dreams).

Regards,
Rebecca

Thats great Rebecca.
I noticed the cost of credits is 5 pounds for 500 hundred.

How many credits for each search?

50 credits for a transcipt - only shows 1 person and not family members - just like the copy/pastes I added in here. 75 credits for the original census, except no mention of the full reference!!, so now I'm searching high and low on Ancestry without luck so far to find the same census piece......

Regards,
Rebecca