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Lisa

Lisa Report 18 Jul 2008 16:04

I am looking for the marriage of my nan and grandad. I only have limited information. My grandads name was Sidney Pursall but it may have been spelt Sydney and my grandmother is Ada and i beleived her maiden was Bailey but i am not sure how correct this is. I am sure that they would have been married somewhere between 1940 - 1945 as i know it wasn't any later than this. My family came from the Aston area so it is likley that they may have got married somewhere in that area or close by.

Many thanks in advance if anyone can help

Lisa

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 18 Jul 2008 16:08

Not what you asked for but here are two possible births, the mother's maiden names are Morton, and Eliman - does that help?


Births Sep 1914 (reg Jul/Aug/Sept)
Pursall Sydney Morton Aston 6d 1208

Births Jun 1921 (reg Apr/May/Jun)
Pursall Sydney W Elliman Birmingham 6d 631

Hope it helps,

Selena

Kay????

Kay???? Report 18 Jul 2008 16:16

Hi Lisa,

They married in 1943,
Birmingham Registration.

April to June,,,
GRO index,,6 d---63,

Sidney W Pursall,to Ada Bailey,,,,,

Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 08:22

Hi Kay

Many thanks for your help that is just who i am looking for.

Kind regards
Lisa

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2008 08:57

Is this his death?

Name: Sydney Walter Pursall
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1921
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1985
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 32
Page: 630

Rose

Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 18:30

Many thanks for everyones help in finding my grand mothers maiden name and Marriage date. I was wondering now if anyone would be able to help in finding my great x 3 mother maiden name and marriage.

Her name was Harriett who was born about 1849 and she was married to Henry Pursall who was born 1846.

Many thanks in advance to any one that can help.

Lisa

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2008 18:55

Can't find a family with dates that match. Can you list them on a census?

Rose

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Jul 2008 19:15

This could be a possibility as in the 1881 census the surname was spelt 'Purcell'

Marriages Sep 1865
Juhes Harriet Dudley 6c 37
Purcell Henry Dudley 6c 37

I've looked at the original registration and I think the surname is 'Jukes'



1881 census
Name: Henry Purcell
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: 20 Northfield Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Spade Plater

Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Purcell 5
Catherine Purcell 13
Ellen Purcell
Ellen Purcell 58 b Bilston Staffs widow listed as Boarder but perhaps Henry's mother?)
Ellen Purcell 19
Harriet Purcell 39
Harriet Purcell 4
Henery Purcell 15
Henry Purcell 36
Mark Purcell 8
Walter Purcell 10


Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 19:21

Hi Rose

Thanks for trying to help me again just trying to fill in my last few gaps. I know the children were Catherine, Walter, Mark, Ann, Harriette, Ellen, John, Ester, Blanche and a friend found them on a cenus for me, but can't remember which one now.

Kind regards
Lisa

Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 19:25

Hi Catherine

Many thanks you have found them. That is spot on and you are correct about Henry's mother. The spelling of the name kept changing think that is why i am having slight difficulties.

Many thanks again
Lisa

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Jul 2008 19:31

Pleased I've found the right family. This is Henry in the 1861 census
Name: Henry Pursall
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
Adham Pursall 4
Ann Pursall 7
Ellen Pursall 38
Henry Pursall 16
Thomas Pursall 10
William Pursall 41 b Kinver Staffs occ Spade & Shovel Plater


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Jul 2008 19:38

This could be Harriet in the 1851 census with family
Name: Harriet Jukes
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1s
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Jukes 20
Edward Jukes 15
Eliza Jukes 13
Harriet Jukes 9
John Jukes 41 b Dudley occ Collier
John Jukes 11


Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 19:43

Hi Catherine

Many thanks for all the information. The next bit of information i am missing is actually Ellen maiden name and the marriage to William. Do not worry if you are not able to help i am very grateful for what you have already done for me.

Kind regards
Lisa

Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 19:57

Many thanks that's brill will look into it.Can't beleive all the help you have given me it's fantastic. All missing links filled in for now.

Thanks once again.

Lisa

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Jul 2008 20:18

I deleted the marriage because I don't think it is correct so please treat it with caution

Marriages Sep 1840

CURLEY Ellen Birmingham 16 327
PURCELL William Birmingham 16 327

The reason is that I found William with his family in the 1841 census but there is no Ellen

1841 census
Name: William Pursall
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Kinver
Hundred: South Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Kinver
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Pursall 11
Charles Pursall 14
Frederick Pursall 20 occ Forgeman
Henry Pursall 15 occ Sawyer
John Pursall 50 occ Carpenter
John Pursall 25 occ Forgeman
Joseph Pursall 25 occ Mason
Mary Pursall 45
Robert Pursall 8
Thomas Pursall 15
Walter Pursall 5
>>>William Pursall 20 occ Forgeman


Lisa

Lisa Report 19 Jul 2008 20:42

Hi Catherine

The 1841 cenus that you have listed above would have been before he got married. In the 1861 cenus Ellen is there and they have a 13year old daughter so i would say they got married between 1841-1847 unless she was already pregnant then it could be 1848.

please do not worry to much sure it will fit into place adventually. Thanks for all you are doing.

Many thanks
Lisa

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 20 Jul 2008 19:50

Does this seem right?

WILLIAM PURSALL
Marriages:
Spouse: ELEANOR FELLOWES
Marriage: 17 JUN 1833 Tipton, Stafford, England

this is from familysearch.org which is free to search.

Here is Thomas baptism

THOMAS PURSALL Christening: 11 JUL 1850 Kinver, Stafford, England
Father: WILLIAM PURSALL
Mother: ELLEN

Anne and Harriet are also on familysearch.